Christian Texts and History • Why Classical Mythicism continues to be the...
For two reasons:Because dualistic origins imply that the oldest version of the dualistic Jesus was a celestial crucifixion, according to the methodological principle that in mythology the simplest...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Marcion, hell and eternal judgment.
Eznik says the Armenian Marcionites said - in a manner that clearly mirrors Justin - that Jesus came to redeem those in Hades who died before Moses introduced the Law.Statistics: Posted by Secret...
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Christian Texts and History • Re: Marcion not a docetist? Litwa interview
Is there any evidence that Marcion himself was a docetist? Are we reliant on the same heresiologists whom are suspected of distorting Marcion in the first place?I have bad news. We are all reliant on...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Using ChatGPT
So you don't see any problem with the way you interpret output as support for what you think?If "it's up to us how we use them," how are you using them? How would you describe that use?Statistics:...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Classical Mythicism is Plausible and Crucial
DefinitionClassical mythicism is:A theory according to which the story of Jesus in the narrative gospels is preceded by literature in other genres whose authors did not think of Jesus in the same...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Why Classical Mythicism continues to be the...
Paraphrasing your definition:DefinitionClassical mythicism is:A theory according to which the story of Jesus in the narrative gospels is preceded by literature in other genres whose authors did not...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: What is the Strongest Argument AGAINST...
The obvious argument in favor of the proposition is that every Christian theologian ever understands Jesus this way.The would call him "Christ" instead of Jesus, but that's a cop out isn't it? What's...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: When did the Jesus cult start?
I vote Nerva/Trajan, and I believe Pliny/Trajan correspondence is forged based on it having no knowledge of how to deal with Christians even though Pliny worked under Domitian, same for Trajan unable...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa...
Why? In any event, CD says right off the bat that the opponents of the sect had "called the guilty innocent, and the innocent guilty. They overstepped covenant, violated law; and ‘they conspired...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Misrepresenting Marcion's view of the...
You might find this book of interest:Litwa, M. David. The Evil Creator: Origins of an Early Christian Idea Oxford University PressTerminology “...demiurgy”Litwa, M. David. The Evil Creator: Origins of...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Mark as allegory ??
gMark, in my reading (and in most readings?) is not an allegory.The idea that Mark is an allegory about Paul is not new. Gustav Volkmar first argued the case for this in 1857 (Die Religion Jesu) and...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Source of Marcionite Aversion to Marriage - the...
Augustus forbade his soldiers from marrying, reinforcing a long-standing Roman military tradition that prioritized duty and discipline over personal ties. Legionaries were expected to remain fully...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: On an intriguing claim by Richard C. Miller
I think the view that there really were people in the first century who honestly believed that they saw the resurrected Jesus and that we need to explain why they believed that in some way could be...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Wither Paul?
As an apostle, yes.As a writer of letters, he was virtually unknown before Marcion.When was Paul ever attested at all before Marcion?Are you familiar with Nina Livesey's work? She makes a pretty good...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Answering to a Stuart's question...
If Tertullian (Irenaeus) argued from his Luke in Adversus Marcionem, high probability it was also his Galatians first collection of Paul's letters ...Statistics: Posted by Secret Alias — Tue Feb 18,...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Bolland strikes back (and outer space too)
The problem is not so much the dating given by Witulski. Bolland himself places Apocalypse under Domitianus (since Juvenal called Domitian a “bald-headed Nero"). Turmel considers Rev 14:4 a Christian...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Secret Mark Rome and Alexandria
Matthew, Luke and John have commentaries, homilies whatever in the first half century of Christianity. Not Mark. At least not from the orthodox.Basilides (non-orthodox) may have commented on...
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Christian Texts and History • Barker | Mark is Pauline and the least Torah...
[31:00]I think Mark's very Pauline and and I think that some strands of earlier scholarship got this wrong um particularly like Ferdinand Christian Bower who who has this idea he was the griesbach...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Barker | Mark is Pauline and the least...
Very nice. At a certain point, it all comes down to whether or not we have all the pieces, most of the pieces, some of the pieces or not enough of the pieces to make sense of history. I tend to think...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Against the Marcion Haters: How Do They...
Why would Marcion have "conspired" to steal a "regular" gospel (where Jesus is a historical figure) and "implant" the idea that Jesus could fly?Go to the "came down from above" in what...
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