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I think Mark's very Pauline and and I think that some strands of earlier scholarship got this wrong um particularly like Ferdinand Christian Bower who who has this idea he was the griesbach hypothesis that it went Matthew Luke and then Mark third that was in Vogue in the day and so when bow created his his theory for all of the origins of early Christian literature he assumed that that that Matthew came first and um there were there were a lot of uh confusing elements to to that I think that it makes the most sense to see Mark as the Pauline gospel it is the uh the least insistent upon Torah observance it it sounds very much like an extrapolation of of the way uh Paul Paul would would talk about um Gentiles not being under the burden of the law those kinds those kinds of things I think Mark presupposes uh Ricky shinel uh at at Vanderbilt wrote a a great article on this uh Quinn um at the healing of Peter's mother-in-law right in the gospel of Mark Jesus heals her and then everybody else Waits until sundown uh to to come to Jesus for healing and the point is to avoid healing on the Sabbath and the idea of when they begin to eat he um what what shinel showed uh sh sh i n a l l this is a JBL article from several years ago um I actually read it when he was uh writing it as a as a master's student and I took it to to AJ LaVine and I said I've been reading for for the past few years writing my dissertation and and this term paper is the best thing I've read in the last five years who who is this guy U and and he's just that smart also happens to be a a surgeon and a medical doctor but he has this great piece about Roman uh Mis misconceptions that the Sabbath day was a day of fasting and you can see this in numerous sources and and Mark is sort of playing on these Roman stereotypes that get Judaism wrong and it's just very Pauling that that this stuff doesn't apply and Sabbath isn't for for Gentiles and boy does Matthew come in as a corrective to that to say don't break any Commandments Paul don't teach anyone to break any Commandments Paul myones counts up 613 Commandments of Torah but I imagine Matthew just saying can we start with 10 can we just start with the the original 10 and Sabbath is one of them and Paul is out there saying you don't have to keep Sabbath if you don't want to and I think Matthew's scratching his head and saying really uh and so there's there is this sort of uh corrective to saying okay a little more Torah observance please a little more Peter a little less Paul uh that sort of back and forth and here is where I think Bower has it right that Luke is really trying to mend the vences uh Luke's trying to establish a big tent to say yay there's room for both of us Peter and Paul are both dead they're martyred if you think back to First Corinthians Paul tells you Peter there's rivalry between people who follow Peter people who don't follow Paul Paul keeps insisting like am I not an apostle well Peter would say no no you are not please sit down please shut up and please stop sending so many letters um just listen to the apostles right and Paul's saying but I am an apostle and so you have that back and forth well when they're both martyred it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to argue about which one of them you follow and so we have Luke trying to say well Peter was a lot more like Paul and Paul was a lot more like Peter Peter if you knew the full story and so let me write the book of Acts for you uh and do that so I think we start with Mark as the Pauline gospel and then I think Matthew is sort of the the Peter's corrective we need we need more Judaism than that not not all these Commandments were given to Gentiles everybody agrees on that but but let's not be so dismissive of The Commandments and Luke says okay let me try to to settle this so that there's a big tent and if you're one of this tiny minority of people in the ancient Roman world who even believe that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah well then maybe we should all just get along.
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--"Writing and Rewriting the Gospels: John and the Synoptics | Dr. James W. Barker". YouTube. @History-Valley. 6 January 2025.
Where do you think the writer of Matthew got his birth narrative? He made it up. He's clearly working from the scriptures and digging up what he thinks are prophecies for the messiah and then crafting a narrative to fit those supposed prophecies.
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As for Luke, the original version of Luke - Luke 3-23 (and half of 24), We can see that this writer is inventing his additions as well. Firstly, several of additions build upon Mark. They take passages in Mark and then expand upon them. Analysis of the parables of Luke shows that they are also the invention of the author. I forget the scholar, but he shows that the themes of the parables are distinct among the authors, which means that they aren't coming from a source, rather they invented by the writers who themselves are the ones supplying the different themes.
I don't understand the incredulousness at the idea that the writers themselves had brains and could invent narratives and material on their own...
eta.Yes, but we can use our brains to assess whether something is invented by the author or not.could invent, not the same as did event
Strongly recommend James Barker talking to Helen Bond and Dave Roos . . . in the Biblical Time Machine podcast. "Ep. 101 How the Gospels Were Actually Written". Biblical Time Machine.
--Mark Goodacre (February 18, 2025)
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