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Christian Texts and History • A criticism of Jason BeDuhn's 'The Myth of...
In an influential paper, 'The Myth of Marcion as Redactor', Jason BeDuhn, argues against the theory that the Evangelion used by Marcion was created by editing the Gospel of Luke by removing material...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • The Recruitment of Simon - Luukey! Ya Got Sum...
JW: GMark GMatthew GLuke GJohnVerse1 16 As Jesus passed along the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea, for they were fishers. 17 And Jesus said to them,...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: A criticism of Jason BeDuhn's 'The Myth of...
You argument assumes gratuitously that *Ev postdates Mark and even (!) Matthew, hence you start with the assumption that the relatives are really there in the background and Marcion removed them (i.e....
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Christian Texts and History • Re: Dave Allen on Why we know there was a...
Dave Allen is going to reply to Ken Olson's and Chrissy Hansen's arguments here. The topics being treated are many and interesting.I would like to limit my attention here on how Dave answers to Ken...
View ArticleJewish Texts and History • Re: "Qumran-Related History: Contemporaries...
Or, in this fragmentary text, some combination of the two readings above, involving both external and internal factors:some erstwhile members or allies of the commenter's righteous group seen as...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • When did the Jesus cult start?
To participate in the poll, pick your single best answer to the question, in terms of which single time period you think has more probability than any other of being correct as the earliest time...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: When did the Jesus cult start?
In order to believe that the Jesus cult started in Tiberius you'd have to believe in the orthodox story of (a) a historical man named Jesus (b) his calling twelve actual disciples (c) the emergence of...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Allen's Wrenched Argument
JW:Why we know there was a Testimonium FlavianumKen, does Allen not know what standard historicity criteria are or is he just willfully ignoring? His arguments take more...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Answering to a Stuart's question...
DCH,...As for Marcion himself. Well, I have opinion on all the legendary patron saints and sect leaders. Suffice it to say they are 99% legend. Marcion can better be viewed as "Mark" who followed...
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Christian Texts and History • Re: The Arch-Heretic’s brave and pious Gospel
.Today, Neil Godfrey made confessions. Neil seems to be a Marcion fan now too But they were there from the beginning — at least if by “the beginning” we insist on appealing only to independently...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: What's up with the anti-Jewish explanations...
Differently from you, I are more open to such alternative view (= entirely anti-demiurgist origins), but with a caveat: the Book of Revelation.Earl Doherty...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa...
And to me, the reason why the DSS sect and Christians talk the same kind of talk is because they were all Fourth Philosophic Jews. This is why they use the concept of the "new covenant," since it was...
View ArticleClassical Texts and History • Origins of the Indo-Aryan Peoples
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025 ... -research/Statistics: Posted by Secret Alias — Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:56 pm
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Discussion: what's in favor of the Jesus...
I vote Flavians but I can understand partially who has voted Hadrian.The short answer is: The Book of Elkasai.The long answer is: assuming the priority of Revelation (because otherwise the view would...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Misrepresenting Marcion's view of the...
Please add 'AI', 'LLM', or 'Grok' to the thread title.Statistics: Posted by Peter Kirby — Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:03 pm
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: On an intriguing claim by Richard C. Miller
I agree that we shouldn't just assume the disciples had some type of visionary experience or hallucination. It's possible that they were just using common tropes to "deify" or exalt their leader....
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Misrepresenting Marcion's view of the...
ThanksStatistics: Posted by Peter Kirby — Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:48 pm
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Wither Paul?
Minor point, I do not accept Justin Martyr as anything more than a legend, the works attributed to him being a century or so later than his supposed existence. I mean his name is an obvious aptronym....
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • The Recruitment of Peter - So's My John Son
JW: GMark GMatthew GLuke GJohnVerse1 16 As Jesus passed along the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea, for they were fishers. 17 And Jesus said to them,...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: 1 Timothy 3:16: a celestial crucifixion?
In 1 Cor 4:9 the earthly context is inferred by the addition "and to men":"to angels and to men".While in 1 Timothy 3:16 only the evil angels are the entities who see.Statistics: Posted by Giuseppe —...
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