Christian Texts and History • Re: Two different theories explain better the...
A reason to support the second view rather than the first view:according to the second view, there is no room left for the possibility that a historical Jesus lived, since the only reason he was...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa...
I think it's not "important" to call it the Day of Fasting so much as it's just one of several descriptions they use for Yom Kippur, one of which refers to fasting, but two emphasize resting ("the...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Do These Sound Like Statements Made By Church...
The opening sentences of each of the chapters of Adversus Marcionem Book Four to demonstrate that Irenaeus is reading from Luke rather than Marcion's gospel: Chapter 1:Latin: Omnem sententiam et omnem...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Do These Sound Like Statements Made By...
I think I am getting to the point where the handling of "the gospel" in Adversus Marcionem is so familiar and so intimate there are only two real possibilities: 1. the Marcionites had a gospel of Luke...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: The Gospel of Luke as a Late Second Century...
The need for Luke's gospel is stated in 1:3 ("having carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you"). In other words, Luke was...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Marcion's Association with the Age of...
The association of Marcion with the reign of Antoninus Pius, frequently cited in patristic sources, has often been misunderstood as being directly linked to Marcion’s personal activities. However, it...
View ArticleJewish Texts and History • Re: The Pentateuch Can't Have Been Written by Jews
Forget about the obvious and overt association with Mount Gerizim and nearby locales as the obvious "home" of the tradition. How can anyone imagine that a Jewish author wrote a history where the...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Irenaeus's War on the Marcionite Term...
Here are two versions of the first chapter Book V of Adversus MarcionemI think the left column is Ernest Evan's translation and the second is the Roberts-Donaldson version (which is also the version...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: New research finds 33 historical...
I admire the attempt to achieve a mathematically proved argument, but I just think it's seriously misguided. I can see you playing around with this method for decades without ever getting closer to...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: the first chapter Book V of Adversus Marcionem
re the first chapter Book V of Adversus Marcionemhttps://www.tertullian.org/articles/eva ... k5_eng.htmhttps://www.newadvent.org/fathers/03125.htm... I desire to hear from Marcion the origin of Paul...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Minimal mythicism: “I am not quite sure...
What one has to invent in order to avoid the mythicist conclusion:For the fundamental contention of Brandt, that Elkesai was not Jewish Christian but Jewish, a passage in Epiphanius, haer. xix. 3,...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Marcion's Association with the Age of...
Please stop. Official acts would have dates. Documents pretending to be official documents would likely have dates. Eusebius references the contemporary use of the Acta Pilati to date the crucifixion...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: The New Perspective on Paul is mere...
...insofar it is based on the dogma that Paul was 100% a Jew. Also, the triple "we" in Galatians 4:3, which connects the pre-Christian past of "Paul" with that of the Galatians ("So also we, when we...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa...
So it's shaphat ("to judge"), which connects to the judgment that the Wicked Priest was expected to face. Just as he "judged" the Teacher, so shall he be "judged" (by God) to have a terrible...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Why 'Christ-mythicism' is fallacious and an...
Already easily confuted that point, thanks to Nordbakke. in Light of the Gospels’ Dramatic DateDramatic Date???Michael Wilhelm Nordbakke has given a best solution here. In short, the date sub Pontio...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Where the OP is fallacious
Christ mythicism is fundamentally wrong due to how it treats the nature of myth as a social tool.Christ mythicism is not an itThis distinction between how myth and novel should be understood in their...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Determining the Marcionite Gospel Text
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb21kYW ... PatristicaFrom 0.47, Mark Bilby:One of the things that our team has been working on, for a few years really, is, when restoring Marian's gospel, how do we...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Markus Vinzent on Determining the Marcionite...
FromMarkus Vinzent 'Marcion’s Gospel and the Beginnings of Early Christianity, ASE* 32/1(2015): pp.55-87 Annali di Storia dell’Esegesihttps://asejournal.net/2015/07/29/ase-321-2015/p.66: In the year...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: Markus Vinzent on Determining the...
Fromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb21kYW ... PatristicaFrom 0.47, Mark Bilby:"One of the things that our team has been working on, for a few years really, is, when restoring Marcion's gospel, how...
View ArticleChristian Texts and History • Re: The Structure of Epiphanius's Pamphlet
The wording of this particular passage doesn't show a major theological or textual divergence that would suggest a different Marcionite gospel. Instead, the wording is close to what is found in...
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