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Kartagraphy Markoff. Did "Mark" Get Any Geography Right?
There is quite a bit of evidence relatively speaking that early Patristics thought "Nazareth" was in Judea:
Nota Ben's:
1) Ben Smith righteously points out that there are early Patristic references to Nazareth in Galilee outside of e-catena.
2) Stephen points out two uses by Pagans of "Judea" referring to Israel in total. I think though that Patristics would generally follow the Gospels though in thinking of Galilee and Judea as distinctly separate.
Joseph
Kartagraphy Markoff. Did "Mark" Get Any Geography Right?
There is quite a bit of evidence relatively speaking that early Patristics thought "Nazareth" was in Judea:
JW:
Regarding "Mark's" (author) Jesus supposedly coming from Nazareth of Galilee to the supposed baptism, this Thread has identified the following reasons to doubt:
1 - We have problems in general with "Mark's" claimed geographical relationships.
2 - The Protevangelium of James - = An attempted harmony of the Infancy narratives does not mention "Nazareth" and implies that Jesus grew up in Judea.
3 - Sextus Julius Africanus = Says that "Nazara" is in Judea
4 - History of Joseph the Carpenter = Says that "Nazareth" is by Jerusalem.
5 - Justin Martyr = Implication that "Nazareth" was in Judea
6 - The Acts of Peter and Paul and Mary says that Nazareth is in Judea.
7 - Pseudo-Tertullian comments on 1:9 and has no mention of Nazareth
8 - The parallel verse in GMatthew 3:13 "Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him." lacks "Nazareth" (spin's favorite piece of evidence).
9 - Hippolytus Fragments = Mainly GMatthew baptism story with no unique quote of GMark and no mention of Nazareth.
10 - The parallel verse in GLuke 3:21 "Now it came to pass, when all the people were baptized, that, Jesus also having been baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened," lacks "Nazareth".
11 - e-catena commentary on 3:21 - no mention of Nazareth.
12 - The parallel verse in GJohn 1:29 "On the morrow he seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world!" - no mention of Nazareth.
13 - e-catena GJohn - Obsession with "the lamb of god". No mentions of Nazareth of Galilee.
14 - Origen gives a detailed commentary on the contradiction between the Synoptics and GJohn regarding where Jesus went after the baptism but makes no mention of such an issue regarding where Jesus came from for the baptism.
15 - Sinaiticus, probably the most authoritative manuscript, has Nazareth as a city of Judea in Luke 1:26.
Nota Ben's:
1) Ben Smith righteously points out that there are early Patristic references to Nazareth in Galilee outside of e-catena.
2) Stephen points out two uses by Pagans of "Judea" referring to Israel in total. I think though that Patristics would generally follow the Gospels though in thinking of Galilee and Judea as distinctly separate.
Joseph
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