Thanks for starting the thesis. When I was writing I was not trying to become Christian again.
I assume you met a hurdle/s just in my comments above.
For over two million years our mammal character is designed by nature to follow leaders. We also are designed by nature to have a sense of justice. We are made to want to follow a just, wise leader who will help us survive and prosper by answering our needs. Instead of this leader we often get dangerous leaders who are feeding on us.
All this was very well understood by important ancient philosophers. Mankind's needs for safe leadership did produce those philosophers. Many philosophers were trying for long to create wise, honest, strong and good leaders. Mankind's needs produced Jesus the permanent leader-Savior through the minds of the philosophers. According to theology (which is philosophy), Jesus pre-existed his any appearance on earth. Jesus-God is part of a Holy Trinity, without beginning and without end. The Savior Jesus appeared on earth just after a time when philosophy reached its highest levels ever, and not any time before. In essence Jesus appeared on earth very recently.
We are created by a force or forces if you wish, which pre-existed us, which composed us out of things visible and invisible. There is an entire creation, a multiverse inside and around us which we should always try to understand by reason, but which will always remain outside our capabilities. God is all what we understand, all what we do not understand, all what made us. God is inside everything, creates everything and no matter how much we try we will never fully understand what God is. There is no beginning and no end of God because we do have limits. Jesus is the link God gives to the man to move above the limits of thought and existence.
It is very easy to say we do not need any religion at all. What is hard is to study religion and realize that others who lived long in the past might have been much more wise than us in many aspects. Dawkins may be a great mind but my conclusions so far are that we cannot create civilisation without religion because religion is the product of long-lasting thought made in order to help mankind move forward. Christianity has accumulated inside it millennia of ancient Greek, Egyptian, Persian, Jewish and other ancient wisdom. To through all this in the bin and start our own new project based on our faith that we are clever-reasonable and we can find the truth just by our new modern selves, may soon become fatal for Western Europe and the US. Socrates, Dawkins' father and one of the main heroes which inspired the formation of Jesus, was not an atheist himself.
I assume you met a hurdle/s just in my comments above.
For over two million years our mammal character is designed by nature to follow leaders. We also are designed by nature to have a sense of justice. We are made to want to follow a just, wise leader who will help us survive and prosper by answering our needs. Instead of this leader we often get dangerous leaders who are feeding on us.
All this was very well understood by important ancient philosophers. Mankind's needs for safe leadership did produce those philosophers. Many philosophers were trying for long to create wise, honest, strong and good leaders. Mankind's needs produced Jesus the permanent leader-Savior through the minds of the philosophers. According to theology (which is philosophy), Jesus pre-existed his any appearance on earth. Jesus-God is part of a Holy Trinity, without beginning and without end. The Savior Jesus appeared on earth just after a time when philosophy reached its highest levels ever, and not any time before. In essence Jesus appeared on earth very recently.
We are created by a force or forces if you wish, which pre-existed us, which composed us out of things visible and invisible. There is an entire creation, a multiverse inside and around us which we should always try to understand by reason, but which will always remain outside our capabilities. God is all what we understand, all what we do not understand, all what made us. God is inside everything, creates everything and no matter how much we try we will never fully understand what God is. There is no beginning and no end of God because we do have limits. Jesus is the link God gives to the man to move above the limits of thought and existence.
It is very easy to say we do not need any religion at all. What is hard is to study religion and realize that others who lived long in the past might have been much more wise than us in many aspects. Dawkins may be a great mind but my conclusions so far are that we cannot create civilisation without religion because religion is the product of long-lasting thought made in order to help mankind move forward. Christianity has accumulated inside it millennia of ancient Greek, Egyptian, Persian, Jewish and other ancient wisdom. To through all this in the bin and start our own new project based on our faith that we are clever-reasonable and we can find the truth just by our new modern selves, may soon become fatal for Western Europe and the US. Socrates, Dawkins' father and one of the main heroes which inspired the formation of Jesus, was not an atheist himself.
Statistics: Posted by SaosSidirountios — Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:24 pm