This is actually kinda brilliant.it is relative to the thought of the people. For example, Strömholm would answer that 1 is true, while Ellegard would answer that 2 is true. The difference is that Strömholm was more optimistic than Ellegard about the Gospels preserving historical material dated back to the Jesus lived 100 years before.
It is a brute fact that exactly one of :
1. The talmud and the Gospels refer to the same Jesus
2. The talmud and the Gospels do not refer to the same Jesus
Is true.
My point is that when the Talmudist placed Jesus under Janneus, very probably the Talmudist didn't know about the Christian connection between Jesus and Pilate. Therefore it is correct to say that the Talmudist would answer that 1 is true.
But when Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE) knew both the Talmud and the Gospels, then he used the Talmud to deny the existence of Jesus under Pilate. In other terms, Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE) would answer that 2 is true.
If true, this would make Abraham ibn Daud a mythicist.
Bravo.
Statistics: Posted by Peter Kirby — Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:58 am