But no one looks at the canon this way. It's always:
1. the "New Testament canon" was established with 1 John.
2. 1 John was accepted by "everyone." (not true)
therefore
3. Irenaeus is citing a version of 1 John which may be "unusual" but it doesn't mean that the New Testament as we have it was invented against Marcionism.
But of course 1 John and Acts and the rest of the canon was invented as a "remedy" against Marcionism. How is it people don't see that? Irenaeus believes that John, the John that wrote the gospel and Revelations and - I would argue - established the four gospel canon to Polycarp, "foretold" the coming of Marcion. The reason this line that Irenaeus quotes from 1 John was altered later is because eventually the Church wasn't filled with complete lunatics and when they saw the ludicrous nature of what he was suggesting i.e. a prophesy delivered by John against the Marcionite rejection of prophesy regarding Jesus as the Christ, the realized "this is crazy, change the text of 1 John."
1. the "New Testament canon" was established with 1 John.
2. 1 John was accepted by "everyone." (not true)
therefore
3. Irenaeus is citing a version of 1 John which may be "unusual" but it doesn't mean that the New Testament as we have it was invented against Marcionism.
But of course 1 John and Acts and the rest of the canon was invented as a "remedy" against Marcionism. How is it people don't see that? Irenaeus believes that John, the John that wrote the gospel and Revelations and - I would argue - established the four gospel canon to Polycarp, "foretold" the coming of Marcion. The reason this line that Irenaeus quotes from 1 John was altered later is because eventually the Church wasn't filled with complete lunatics and when they saw the ludicrous nature of what he was suggesting i.e. a prophesy delivered by John against the Marcionite rejection of prophesy regarding Jesus as the Christ, the realized "this is crazy, change the text of 1 John."
Statistics: Posted by Secret Alias — Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:16 pm