https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
JW:
Just for you spin. I wouldn't do this for anyone else:
Observations:
1) The general style of the time was to provide anecdotes that supported the presented character of the subject. Lots of examples could be shown.
2) More important is the individual style of the author. Josephus follows the style of 1) in the undisputed writings above.
3) John the Baptist story is different than the above in that the primary subject is the defeat of Herod's army. John the Baptist is secondary as the cause.
4) The Jesus story above is different in every way:
The above is Intrinsic Internal evidence regarding how it was said which suggests that it is not original. More important was what was said and that is even stronger evidence against originality. spin is of course right that the style of presentation has been under covered in the related dispute and is further evidence of addition.
Joseph
PROPHECY, n. The art and practice of selling one's credibility for future delivery.
The New Porphyry
JW:
Just for you spin. I wouldn't do this for anyone else:
Description | Character | Anecdotes |
Honi (Onias) the Circle-Drawer AJ 14.22-25 (14.2.1-2)
| Righteous | 1. Prayed for rain and it rained. 2. Refused to curse his fellow Jews. |
Judas the Essene BJ 1.78-81 (1.3.4)
| Prophetic | Antigonus slain |
Menahem the Essene AJ 15.373-379 (15.10.5)
| Foreknowledge | Said Herod would be King |
Jesus 18.63-64 (18.3.3)
| Wise man | No individual supporting anecdote |
Observations:
1) The general style of the time was to provide anecdotes that supported the presented character of the subject. Lots of examples could be shown.
2) More important is the individual style of the author. Josephus follows the style of 1) in the undisputed writings above.
3) John the Baptist story is different than the above in that the primary subject is the defeat of Herod's army. John the Baptist is secondary as the cause.
4) The Jesus story above is different in every way:
- 1. Lots of positive characteristics but none of them virtue or prophecy.
2. Lots of group anecdotes but no single ones.
3. Combination of greatest endorsement and smallest amount of words.
The above is Intrinsic Internal evidence regarding how it was said which suggests that it is not original. More important was what was said and that is even stronger evidence against originality. spin is of course right that the style of presentation has been under covered in the related dispute and is further evidence of addition.
Joseph
PROPHECY, n. The art and practice of selling one's credibility for future delivery.
The New Porphyry
Statistics: Posted by JoeWallack — Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:21 pm