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Christian Texts and History • There's Something About Mary/Herodias. A Herodias Sandwich.

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Salome should be in the Herod story and the Disciples surrounding the Herod story should be at the Tomb (understand Dear KK).The primary theme. Jesus is not where he should be. Supported by the same theme for the surrounding characters. This is likely the original (Pauline) Christianity.

That's a really interesting thought. Nice discovery
JW:
Thanks KK. Likewise Philip is not where he is supposed to be in GMark:

Salome
Josephus
Salome is mentioned as a stepdaughter of Herod Antipas in Josephus's Jewish Antiquities (Book XVIII, Chapter 5, 4):

Herodias, [...], was married to Herod, the son of Herod the Great, who was born of Mariamne, the daughter of Simon the high priest, who had a daughter, Salome; after whose birth Herodias took upon her to confound the laws of our country, and divorced herself from her husband while he was alive, and was married to Herod, her husband's brother by the father's side, he was tetrarch of Galilee; but her daughter Salome was married to Philip,[c] the son of Herod, and tetrarch of Trachonitis; and as he died childless, Aristobulus,[d] the son of Herod,[e] the brother of Agrippa, married her; they had three sons, Herod, Agrippa, and Aristobulus;[11]
JW:
Per Josephus Salome was married to Philip. Per GMark Herodias is married to Philip. So Philip is also not where he is supposed to be in GMark. He is wrongly shown as married to Herodias and shown as a Disciple/Apostle without any other support.
JW:
Verse Commentary
6
16 But when Herod heard of it, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has been raised.”
17 For Herod himself had sent men who arrested John, bound him, and put him in prison on account of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, because Herod[e] had married her. 18 For John had been telling Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.” 19 And Herodias had a grudge against him and wanted to kill him. But she could not, 20 for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a righteous and holy man, and he protected him. When he heard him, he was greatly perplexed,[f] and yet he liked to listen to him. 21 But an opportunity came when Herod on his birthday gave a banquet for his courtiers and officers and for the leaders of Galilee. 22 When his daughter Herodias[g] came in and danced, she pleased Herod and his guests, and the king said to the girl, “Ask me for whatever you wish, and I will give it.” 23 And he swore[h] to her, “Whatever you ask me, I will give you, even half of my kingdom.” 24 She went out and said to her mother, “What should I ask for?” She replied, “The head of John the baptizer.” 25 Immediately she rushed back to the king and requested, “I want you to give me at once the head of John the Baptist on a platter.” 26 The king was deeply grieved, yet out of regard for his oaths and for the guests, he did not want to refuse her. 27 Immediately the king sent a soldier of the guard with orders to bring John’s head. He went and beheaded him in the prison, 28 brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the girl. Then the girl gave it to her mother. 29 When his disciples heard about it, they came and took his body and laid it in a tomb.
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40 There were also women looking on from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome, 41 who followed him when he was in Galilee and ministered to him, and there were many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem.
42 When evening had come, and since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath, 43 Joseph of Arimathea, a respected member of the council who was also himself waiting expectantly for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 44 Then Pilate wondered if he were already dead, and summoning the centurion he asked him whether he had been dead for some time. 45 When he learned from the centurion that he was dead, he granted the body to Joseph. 46 Then Joseph[k] bought a linen cloth and, taking down the body,[l] wrapped it in the linen cloth and laid it in a tomb that had been hewn out of rock. He then rolled a stone against the door of the tomb. 47 Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses saw where the body[m] was laid.16 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.
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JW:
The contrived repetition of "Marys" at the end of GMark are designed to be a Textual Marker to connect with the contrived repetition of Herod/Herodias in Chapter 6. The primary thematic reason, as always with GMark, is to present the supposed historical disciples in a negative light. Herod, the imaginary King, ironically believes in resurrections while Jesus' disciples do not. John the Baptists' disciples still follow him at the end and give him a proper burial. Jesus' former disciples do not. Instead that is done by yet another Joseph ( the Hebrew name of which means, "to add") of "Arimathea" which in Greek means "best disciple". Understand dear reader.

Goodacre could save a lot of time by just reading the posts that are already here.


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