Again, here are Stephen C. Carlson's translations of mentions by Eusebius of Aristion. From his book, Papias of Hierapolis [2021] page 125:
3.39.7b
"In fact he often mentions them (_scil._ Aristion and the elder John) by name when he puts their traditions in his volumes."
3,39.14a
"And in his own writing he hands down other accounts of the Lord's words by the Aristion explained above and traditions by John the elder."
It may be that, because that particular John is called "the elder," some seem to recall that Aristion as if he necessarily also was an elder then. With that thought, Aristo of Pella might seem too late to be the same person. But he's not. Aristo of Pella got oral tradition from early Christians who fled to Pella. One person can have lived during the time of Trajan and the time of Hadrian--after all, Hadrian is precisely an example of such.
The Christian community at the time of Papias was relatively small. The number of people with respected oral traditions was relatively small. The number of such notable contemporary individuals named Aristion/Ariston (spellings varied for the same name) might well have been one. Aristo of Pella--whose Christian writing is lost--could well have been, along with John, a source of oral tradition for Papias.
I think it probable.
3.39.7b
"In fact he often mentions them (_scil._ Aristion and the elder John) by name when he puts their traditions in his volumes."
3,39.14a
"And in his own writing he hands down other accounts of the Lord's words by the Aristion explained above and traditions by John the elder."
It may be that, because that particular John is called "the elder," some seem to recall that Aristion as if he necessarily also was an elder then. With that thought, Aristo of Pella might seem too late to be the same person. But he's not. Aristo of Pella got oral tradition from early Christians who fled to Pella. One person can have lived during the time of Trajan and the time of Hadrian--after all, Hadrian is precisely an example of such.
The Christian community at the time of Papias was relatively small. The number of people with respected oral traditions was relatively small. The number of such notable contemporary individuals named Aristion/Ariston (spellings varied for the same name) might well have been one. Aristo of Pella--whose Christian writing is lost--could well have been, along with John, a source of oral tradition for Papias.
I think it probable.
Statistics: Posted by StephenGoranson — Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:39 am
